I am FIRED UP right now
There’s a knot in my stomach. I feel like I’m about to burst into tears and the thoughts are RACING through my head as my fingers are flying across the keyboard.
I was disheartened this morning to read that McCain’s support from white women voters has jumped DRAMATICALLY since he announced Sarah Palin as his running mate. I really thought we were smarter than that. I really thought that American women would vote on ISSUES, not on the possession of a vagina. And I’m sure some of those women ARE voting on issues, which is totally fine. At least that’s defensible. At least there’s merit to it.
I can only hope that women who are voting for McCain because of Sarah Palin’s involvement will take the time to research her. Because if they do, I’d like to think their votes would change.
I’d like to think that when they find out that, while she was Mayor, the City of Wasilla CHARGED RAPE SURVIVORS FOR THEIR RAPE KITS*, that they’ll reconsider. As someone who spent too many hours sitting with survivors** as they were questioned by police and put through a grueling, demeaning exam after being assaulted, I find this despicable. It makes it hard for me to breathe. I can’t even imagine that ANYONE would ever think that was okay. I can’t imagine that anyone would ever be able to justify it.
And I’m sure some of you are going to argue that she wasn’t involved. That we can’t hold her accountable. But SHE was the Mayor during this period. SHE was in charge. She’s basing her platform on the “shaking up” of the “good ole’ boy’s system” that she accomplished while Mayor. She made decisions, including the firing of the former Chief of Police, but didn’t find this act reprehensible enough to change. And I find THAT reprehensible. Unacceptable. Inexcusable.
I’d like to think that when they hear her condemn Barack Obama for the amount of earmark’s he’s secured for Illinois, that they’re aware of the fact that her state LEADS THE NATION in per capita pet project spending. A whopping $295 per citizen. The state where SHE’S the Governor. And be sure to read this article…specifically the last sentence. If true, it totally discredits her. On many levels.
I’d like to think that when they hear the line, over and over again, “I said ‘Thanks but No Thanks’ to that bridge to nowhere” that they’re aware that she originally supported the bridge, but changed her tune after the election.
I’d like to think that when they hear Conservative’s complaining that Liberals are throwing her pregnant daughter into the spotlight, that they acknowledge the fact that the baby’s daddy was ceremoniously flown to the RNC and paraded in front of news cameras. And if you’re going to argue that “He’s a part of the family now”, then explain to me why he wasn’t mentioned during her speech when she introduced the rest of her family?
I’d like to think that when they hear that she’s going to be an “advocate for Special Needs children” that they wonder why, then, she doesn’t support stem cell research? Research that would almost definitely lead to discoveries that could help, even KEEP ALIVE, thousands of special needs children. Not to mention the other MILLIONS of Americans who live with, and are dying from, illnesses for which there is no cure.
And I’d like to think that when they hear conservatives criticizing Barack Obama for being a “celebrity” with a “rock star” following, that they take into account that she’s currently on the cover of “People“, “Us Weekly” and “OK” magazines.
I’d like to think that when they hear McCain & Palin touting the fact that THEY’RE the team that’s going to bring change to Washington, that they take into account the fact that McCain voted in-line with George Bush’s positions 95% of the time in 2007. A jump of almost 20% from 2005 and almost 30% from 2001. As Bush becomes more and more un-popular, McCain votes with him more and more of the time. How is THAT change? How is THAT something to be proud of?
Sarah Palin’s closest friend’s can’t even commit to voting for her.
And, yes, this video is from The Daily Show, which isn’t known for it’s independent streak, but it does bring up some interesting points:
*The takeaway from the Frontiersman article is this:
While the Alaska State Troopers and most municipal police agencies have covered the cost of exams, which cost between $300 to $1,200 apiece, the Wasilla police department does charge the victims of sexual assault for the tests.
Wasilla Police Chief Charlie Fannon does not agree with the new legislation, saying the law will require the city and communities to come up with more funds to cover the costs of the forensic exams.
Chief Fannon is the man SHE put into office after firing the former Chief. Hand picked by her, and by all accounts, someone who supported her completely.
**I was a Rape Crisis Advocate for the Santa Barbara Rape Crisis Center while in college. My role was to answer the hotline during my shift and, if necessary, accompany women during their police interview and rape exam, which was held in building completely separate from the hospital. The exam was performed by a Sexual Assault Response Team (SART) Nurse and was videotaped. My job was to be an advocate for the survivor, make sure they were aware of what was happening around them, and to make sure they knew their rights. Which included NOT having to speak to police or participate in the exam. Which got me into many a heated discussion with Emergency Room Personnel.
***I’ve done my best to back up my points with references. You don’t have to agree with my political views, but you do have to be aware of the facts.
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Susie on 09 Sep 2008 at 12:47 pm #
Great post, Meg! I have to tell you that my heart beats faster every time election news is on.Are they gaining ground? Has Obama stumbled? I get anxious and angry then sick. November can’t come soon enough yet I fear it.
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PsychMamma on 09 Sep 2008 at 1:29 pm #
I’m with you 100%. If America votes Republican again, essentially saying that they want the same crap as the last 8 years, I think I’ll have to move to Canada.
And on the Palin issue, how about the lie about selling the govenor’s plane on Ebay? She actually listed it there, but it never sold and had to be sold offline for a $600,000 loss to the state of Alaska (since it was purchased with state funds). http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/09/palin-repeats-bridge-to-n_n_125084.html
As a mom to a special needs child, my ire was instantly up when she vaguely proclaimed that she would be my “advocate” in Washington. In addition to your stem cell comments, check out this additional information on her cutting funds in Alaska for special needs programs:
http://momocrats.typepad.com/momocrats/2008/09/sarah-palin-sla.html
And finally, I agree with Hilary Rosen from CNN when she said, “I don’t care about how Sarah Palin or John McCain take care of their families. I care about how their policy choices affect my family and millions of other Americans.” http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/03/rosen.palin/?iref=mpstoryview
I guess I’m fired up too, b/c I can feel my blood pressure elevating with every key I type….
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Maura on 09 Sep 2008 at 1:33 pm #
You hit on all the points I’ve been hearing about and it’s nice to see them all together in one place. I’d also like to think American women are smarter than that, but I’m beginning to have my doubts. It makes me almost paralyzed to think we could have another four years of backwards-thinking leaders instead of a forward-moving one.
On a related note, I am SO SICK of reading hateful comments from “the right” on articles and posts saying, in effect, “Democrats aren’t patriots because they hate our country and they should just get out.” To me it’s just a symptom of the brainwashing they’ve succumbed to from the top down, because it couldn’t be further from the truth. I want change for my country BECAUSE I love it and want it to be a better place. Telling me, or anyone, to “get out” because we don’t agree WITH THEM is the height of ignorance and damage done by eight years of Bush.
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Amy in Ohio on 09 Sep 2008 at 1:51 pm #
I’m totally french kissing you when we get to DC. Just consider yourself warned.
A terrific post Meghan – I’m just linking to you when I’m asked another dozen times why I dislike Palin so much. WELL DONE!
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Marinka on 09 Sep 2008 at 1:54 pm #
But, but, she’s folksy and one of us! Give her a chance. Really, I can’t even read this stuff anymore, it just enrages me. I assume all these people switching over to support Palin are new to this country and haven’t been around for the last 8 years?
I actually had an interesting conversation with my husband this weekend–we were a divided family, what with my being a HRC supporter and him being an Obama supporter. But he has been becoming disenchanted with BHO, thinking of him more as an empty suit, so he told me that he was considering voting for McCain, until he picked Palin. He won’t vote for an evangelical. Anyway. I hope people come to their senses.
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Andrea's Sweet Life on 09 Sep 2008 at 2:16 pm #
Well done, Meghan! I’ve been having similar discussions around here, when we usually keep to ourselves about politics (as you and I discussed at BlogHer – it’s hard when you come from a “mixed” family!). Thanks for giving me some references to point at!
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Domestic Extraordinaire on 09 Sep 2008 at 2:20 pm #
what may comfort you is knowing that while they may be polling women they may not be recording all of the stats and reporting them accurately. this happened when i lived in fl.
i know my mind is made up-this republican is voting for obama.
on a totally unrelated note i am still trying to convince the hubs that i need to go to dc, not sure if it is working though. we’ll see how the next apt with my wrist goes i guess.
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Elaine on 09 Sep 2008 at 2:22 pm #
THANK YOU for putting this out there. People have to know what this WOMAN is really about. I don’t care what her gender is, I don’t want ANYONE like that representing me.
Awesome post.
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Connie @ Young and Relentless on 09 Sep 2008 at 2:55 pm #
I guess I am one of the stupid ones.
Just so you know….Alaska and Wasilla are not the only states/cities that charge the victim. If you are that fired up about it…do something about it.
I am really getting tired of all of the trashing of Governor Palin. I really would love to see some posts from those of you supporting Obama talking about how he is going to pay for the billions of dollars of programs he has planned. Oh right, he is going to charge it all to businesses.
Seriously…tell me WHY you are voting for Obama instead of complaining about the Republicans.
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Lee Anne on 09 Sep 2008 at 3:29 pm #
I am just hoping that people will watch the debates in October and that they will vote on the ISSUES. Every time I read a post like this, it makes me feel very scared for my daughter’s future should this country elect McCain/Palin.
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Z on 09 Sep 2008 at 3:39 pm #
YES … to all you say. All of it.
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Meghan on 09 Sep 2008 at 4:11 pm #
Hi Connie-
First, I’m not calling you (or anyone else who votes for McCain/Palin) stupid. I didn’t use that word. I was simply saying that if people are going to vote for McCain/Palin because they actually agree with their beliefs/stances, FINE. But if people are voting for them because he put a woman on the ticket, then I have an issue with that. Those are the people who are responding to ads & speeches that are downright misleading.
And I’m sure there are other backward cities/counties that charge survivors of rape for their testing…but the people in charge there aren’t running for the Vice Presidency of the United States. And by supporting a candidate who thought that was okay, we’re saying we think that’s okay. I DO what I can. I write posts to raise people’s awareness. I donate to my local Rape Crisis Center and hope to someday be able to be an advocate again. I raise my voice against injustice. If we all sat around and kept our mouths shut we wouldn’t get anywhere in this world.
And I wouldn’t say that writing a piece about her actions and stances is trashing her. I don’t understand how what I just wrote, with facts to back it up, constitutes trashing. Nothing that I wrote is demeaning to her as a woman or mother or individual. I take issue with her politics and considering she’s running for Vice President, that’s fair game I’d say.
As for your argument that Obama’s simply “going to charge it all to business”, it’s one I’ve heard before and it’s pretty simplistic. I hope you’ll read this article and get a better handle on what his ideas ACTUALLY are.
And while, no, I don’t agree with everything he proposes or stands for, I truly believe he’s what’s best for this country. And believe me, I’m working on a post about why I’m voting for Obama. There’s not enough space here for it.
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Glennia on 09 Sep 2008 at 4:11 pm #
First of all, excellent post.
Second a note to Connie: If you took the time to read Barack Obama’s plans, you will see detailed accounting of how we can pay for all of the programs he proposes without raising taxes on the middle class or on small businesses. Instead, you rely on the tired meme of “Democrats raise taxes, Republicans lower them” which is not borne out by fact or history. How about we start with stopping the Iraq war and not spending $12B a month for something that is not keeping us safer? $12B a month would go a long way towards energy indepedence.
Gov. Palin is being “trashed” by her own hypocritical actions. Wasilla may not be the only community charging rape victims for kits, but they are the only community with a former mayor running for VP claiming that women should be swayed by her gender into believing she is “just like us” and will be our advocate in the White House. They are the only community on record opposing the Alaska governor’s signing the bill prohibiting them from continuing the practice. There are many, many reasons to vote for Barack Obama besides the fact that John McCain offers nothing more than 4 more years of failed Bush policies. I suggest you start with the Blueprint for America and see the detailed plans, the thought behind them, and the actual plans for how to pay for those programs.
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Mike from the Newborn Identity on 09 Sep 2008 at 4:42 pm #
Well, personally I’m voting for Sarah because I really pray that we start teaching creationism in schools, and with her in power that just might happen. I want this because it isn’t hard enough to be a teacher as it is….we need to make them also explain to a bunch of Native American, Muslum, Hindu, Agnostic, Atheist, (and on and on…) students about six magical days. Oh, and whose version of those six magic days will we preach? The Protestants? Catholics? Mormons? Jews?
I think you did an amazing job writing this, Meghan, and I want to say to Connie with all due respect that there are just as many posts around the net who criticize Obama. If all of these posts (and many left-leaning ones too) were as thoughtful and well said as Meg’s our country would be a better place, I say.
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Amy in Ohio on 09 Sep 2008 at 4:53 pm #
Connie – with all due respect, Meghan HAS posted the WHY behind her support for Obama. The fact that you don’t agree with those reasons doesn’t negate the fact that she’s put it out there and done so quite eloquently.
Bush spent billions on a war no one wants us in – where was his plan to pay for that? And now McCain promises more of the same. Where’s YOUR candidate’s accountability?
Finally, I’d like to remind you that we (dems) listened for months while the right did nothing but laundry list Obama’s flaws – searching high and low for anything and everything to smear him. I imagine the GOP had no real alternative as the mood was at best lukewarm towards McCain. They were AGAINST Obama, but not necessarily FOR McCain. Maybe you’re a true believer, but you might want to consider that when you visit a blog hosted by someone who believes in issues contradictory to the ones you hold dear, you’re bound to come across things you might find offensive. But all the issues listed here are matter ofpublic record and your VP candidate better get used to answering for them – just like Obama did. And if it’s more than you care to handle, there are plenty of blogs out there singing Palin’s praises – try one of those on for size.
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heather... on 09 Sep 2008 at 5:01 pm #
I honestly and sincerely hate talking about politics. I’m not good at it. I ramble. I am not nearly educated enough on a lot of the issues to make the points I’d like. But…I feel like I need to leave a comment more in-depth than my usual “politics make me drink” standard.
Sometimes I wish that politics was blind. That we knew the voting records of the candidates, but we didn’t know their names, their faces, their genders. You went in and voted strictly on the platforms each candidate presented. You knew how they wanted to change things and attack problems. Their personal lives weren’t part of the equation. You didn’t know if they were married, had children, or practiced a religion. On election day, you voted for Candidate A or Candidate B. You found out who you’d actually voted for the next day.
I say this because, if Palin wasn’t a woman, I honestly think that most people would say, “What’s up with Candidate B’s VP choice? That person seems a little…off.”
While I am tired of our endless parade of white men in power, the color, religion, or gender of my President is far less important than what they stand for. And I have never really thought much about my Vice President before. But when one of the Presidential candidates is 72 years old, there is a real possibility that the VP could come into power. You have to sit back and consider what that VP would do as President, and vote accordingly.
In some ways, I am happy that no matter which ticket wins, history will be made. A black man or a woman will hold the two most important positions in this country. But that’s really where my thinking about those characteristics end. They had no control over their color or gender. Does it shape who they are? Yes. But in the end it is the candidate you vote for and not their gender or color. An African American can be Obama or Clarence Thomas. A woman can be Nancy Pelosi or Ann Coulter.
I vote based on the issues that mean the most to me. Those issues will absolutely change down the line, but right now there are some things that are SO IMPORTANT to me that other issues fall by the wayside. Social issues, gay rights, the environment, those all matter SO MUCH to me, to the point that I don’t care if I get taxed more. I am willing to sacrifice a few thousand dollars a year for the happiness of others, my daughter’s planet & her future education.
That’s why I’m voting for Obama. And this freaking comment has turned into a post.
/Heather talking about politics
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Grandmaother on 09 Sep 2008 at 6:11 pm #
I admire Barack Obama for choosing his running mate thoughtfully. Joe Biden may not be everyone’s cup of tea, but he’s been around the block and can take care of the country, should the need arise.
John McCain chose the person who could help him win the election – period. I am convinced she was hand picked by Rush Limbaugh and Carl Rove – certainly not because she’s prepared to be President, but she made the John McCain candidacy more palatable to them. And John McCain needs them.
I can’t see her sitting across a table from Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
I put my trust in Barack Obama and Joe Biden – I trust THEM to work toward making the world a better place for my grandchildren. Period.
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melissaz on 09 Sep 2008 at 6:50 pm #
Did you see how the Palin camp is starting to complain because Obama used the phrase “putting lipstick on the pig” as somehow derogatory towards her? Like everyone hasn’t been using it for ages! Sheesh. If you’re gonna be in the spotlight, be prepared to sweat a little.
Thanks for the insightful post.
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Amy in Ohio on 09 Sep 2008 at 7:11 pm #
Meghan – in addition to taking Court from you, Grandmaother is now mine too. Sorry – if you want I’ll help you look for another family.
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Meghan on 09 Sep 2008 at 7:13 pm #
But Grandmaother- you’re forgetting a KEY point.
McCain/Palin would NEVER be sitting across from Ahmadinejad because they would NEVER even consider holding talks with him.
And John McCain would totally have my respect (but not my vote) if he’d chosen someone he WANTED as opposed to someone others wanted. That’s not being a Maverick. That’s being a pawn.
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Shannon Martinez on 09 Sep 2008 at 7:14 pm #
Meghan,
I can only hope that we as a country aren’t so stupid to cast a vote because snarky political one liners sound amusing. We want our kids to think for themselves and be intelligent in their choices but people all around me are falling prey to this idiotic rhetoric. I just keep hoping but man I am sweating too.
Shannon
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Meghan on 09 Sep 2008 at 7:19 pm #
Melissa-
That totally makes me laugh because she’s such a hottie I find it hard to believe that they can construe that as having ANYTHING to do with her. :0)
And that’s the problem with her as a candidate. No one will allow anyone to press her at all. ABC’s going to have the first shot, but if they’re even slightly “pressing” I’d imagine there will be hell to pay. It’s going to be interesting to watch.
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Meghan on 09 Sep 2008 at 7:23 pm #
Shannon-
My only hope is that the hype will wear off in the next few weeks and people will ACTUALLY focus on the ISSUES.
Fingers crossed. Tightly.
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Renée aka Mekhismom on 09 Sep 2008 at 7:34 pm #
I think this is an excellent post. I would hope that people vote on the issues and not because of a particular person. But we live in America and people here tend to be driven by emotion. WE need to get out there and register some young people if we want the Democrats to win.
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Auntie Jen on 09 Sep 2008 at 8:05 pm #
Well, I usually keep my comments to myself but I have to say I have heard nothing commented on the real issues that would affect our country’s economy. First of all, I have heard a lot of complaining about how Palin is raising her family, which is no one’s business but her own. She is not physically, mentally or spiritually hurting anyone, so who cares. There is not a perfect way to raise a family and everyone has there own way that their family works, as well as their problems. As for McCain chosing Palin, I can’t believe people actually think the reason he chose her was to strengthen his chance of winning! Of course he did! I can’t believe people are shocked that he chose someone who agrees with him on the important issues, oh, and so what if she happens to be a woman. What does that have to do with what they believe in? As for my children’s future, just because I can’t afford to be taxed more, doesn’t mean I don’t want the best for them. We work hard to provide for our family, why do we have to give money to people who don’t want to work? The environment can be helped if everyone takes the initiative to do their part and not expect others to do if for them. Typical liberal mentality, always blame everyone else for what’s wrong in their lives. How about taking on responsability of your own world you have created?
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Connie @ Young and Relentless on 09 Sep 2008 at 8:22 pm #
I am very educated in Obama’s plan. I have done my homework. PAYGO has been tried before and it has been abandoned many times. I hope it works this time.
I hope that the businesses’ he raises tax rates on do not lead to loss of jobs and increased cost of goods and services. That is not good for America.
I have enjoyed reading democrat blogs because I want to be informed about both sides. I just wish that everyone would focus on the issues and not rumors and dirt about candidates. The media does a great job of that.
Good Luck!
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Insta-Mom on 09 Sep 2008 at 9:03 pm #
Can I just say “Yeah, what Heather said”?
‘Cuz I posted my thoughts and don’t have time for a re-run.
But I really appreciate the effort and time in this post, Meghan. Well done.
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Mike from the Newborn Identity on 10 Sep 2008 at 12:16 am #
A couple additional comments…
Connie: I’m glad you agree with Meghan that we should focus on the issues and not rumors and dirt…thankfully Meg’s post dealt with facts.
Auntie Jen: I normally agree that a politician’s family life should be off limits, but after years of Republicans such as Palin insisting that they alone represent true family values, and criticize anyone who disagrees that the only sex ed a child should receive is abstinance, then it matters when her teenage child gets pregnant out of marriage. It matters big time until Palin explains the contradiction between her flawed sex ed policy and her own home.
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Quart on 10 Sep 2008 at 3:08 am #
Whew. I started composing my comment last night and it looks as though everyone has already said what I wanted to say. But here goes anyway:
First, I would like to make a few additional points:
“that they’re aware that she originally supported the bridge, but changed her tune after the election.” (Actually, she changed her tune BUT KEPT ALL THE MONEY.)
“why he (Bristol’s ‘fiance’ ) wasn’t mentioned during her speech when she introduced the rest of her family?” (And why two days earlier they were pleading for privacy.)
To answer Connie’s question: the reasons I support Obama are probably the reasons the Palin fans do not:
- He does not support a constitutional amendment outlawing gay marriage
- He will not repeal Roe vs. Wade
- He would prefer to talk to “rogue” leaders before invading their country
- He wants to give scholarship money to college students who perform community service (and, I just learned, wants to fund this by postponing NASA trips to the moon and Mars, which I whole-heartedly support)
- He didn’t bend to insane pressure during the primaries to repeal the gas tax (one of the reasons I supported him over Hillary in the primaries. He was the only candidate who didn’t pander on this issue)
- He supports banning semi-automatic weapons
- He will cut my taxes (and everyone else’s who makes under $250,000 a year. Connie and Auntie Jen are very lucky to be making more than that, and I am sorry that their taxes will increase, but my family will welcome this break. We really need it. He will also eliminate income taxes on senior citizens who make less than $50,000 a year. I admit, I am not sure how he plans to pay for that, but I will tell you that I’d rather see my 92 year old grandma not pay taxes than whatever corporation out there).
I feel like I should address Auntie Jen’s comment about the “typical liberal mentality” to blame everyone else for what wrong in our lives, but I am shaking too much right now to do that. I think the problem here is that we all should realize that there is no “typical” liberal or conservative mentality, and we would all be better off if we just stick to the facts. Palin and Giuliani did their part to abuse Obama’s community organizing last week, but that to me is an excellent example of a “liberal” doing something to help people in a bad situation, rather than blaming whoever for their poverty. Would our country not be a better place if more people were involved in community organizing?
(Hey, look at that. I DID manage to address Jen’s comment!)
I have lots more to say, but I don’t event want to get started on the “lipstick on a pig” thing. Meg, can I guest post about that? Kidding!
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Angie @ Keep Believing on 10 Sep 2008 at 7:56 am #
To PsychMama, don’t worry. If Obama gets voted in, you will practically be living in Canada due to the tax rate hikes that will have to occur to fund his expanded government changes.
Meg, you ARE fired up. Her stance on stem cell comes from her same stance on pro-life. She doesn’t claim to not have that stance. I respect her for picking a side on that. Truthfully, i guess I respect her because it is MY stance, too.
My brother-in-law’s father was mayor of a small town in Missouri a few years back. he did great things for that community. He was then stuck in the middle of a lawsuit by a woman who claimed to be sexually harassed by a policeman. How could he have known? Mayrs and all leaders cannot always be 100% accountable for what every single person does. When something happens they need to address it. Palin should have, if she didn’t, addressed the rape kit charge.
Alaska also happens to be one of the most sparecely yet LARGEST geographially states. I am sure if you look at Wyoming and South Dakota their spending is high on a per capita basis. I have no facts to back that up, but that is a very unfair statistic.
I disagree with so much of Obama’s stances mostly his stance on abortion rights even when the baby is considered viable because I honestly don’t see how you can be a person with a conscience and support that or claim it is a RIGHT anyone has. However, I agree with some of what he wants to do. Healthcare needs reform, but what exactly are his plans for it. Give me more stinking details of how that is going to happen and where the funding is coming from while he also claims he is going to cut taxes. Umm, does not compute. does not compute. You simply can’t do both. Canada has socialized medicine – equal across the board. I live there. There is no labs in your doctors office. Your child does not see a pediatrician without a referral. You do not see a specialist without a referral and a wait. Need an MRI? Here is your 2-3 month wait list. Speaking from experience of dealing with a critical illness, my husband would not be alive today in that system. I have absolutely no doubt about that in my mind.
As far as many women McCain because she is a woman now. Yes, people are ignorant like that. Just like some like McCain becuase he is white and some like Obama because he is mixed race. And some like Obama because he speaks and delivers well. Some are swayed without looking past those exact things. Unfortunately, that is what gets MANY people into office. There is a degree of popularity to it. It is sad.
And as far as “you can put lipstick on a pig, but it is still a pig” comment, I think he owes her a personal apology. That comment is demeaning and rude. And if anyone made a similar comment about him, I would say the same damn thing.
These things are exactly the issues that divide us so much and make us not respect the one that is in office. If Obama gets voted in, he will get my respect because he is commander in chief and that is the way it is. I wouldn’t disrespect him like that. I can only hope American’s will do the same not matter who the next commander in chief is.
KEEP BELIEVING
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Meghan on 10 Sep 2008 at 8:11 am #
Angie,
Your BIL’s Father wouldn’t (hopefully) have know how each employee was behaving. HOWEVER, as MAYOR it’s his JOB to know the budget, to know where the money is allocated. And as a WOMAN, I’d like to think that rape kits are something she would have been zeroed in on.
I’m working on a post (right now!) about Obama & his tax plan. Hopefully that will open your eyes a bit more about what his plan ACTUALLY is.
As far as Health Care? What if Brian didn’t work for a company that provided health care? Where would you be now? Where are the THOUSANDS of Americans who are diagnosed EVERY DAY with life threatening illness who don’t have health care coverage?
And the “Lipstick on a pig” remark he made? He was referring to POLICY, not her specifically. (And have you SEEN her? Do you really think he was referring to her? She’s a freakin’ beauty queen, for crying out loud.) It was kind of like when McCain made the SAME remark in reference to Hillary’s Health Care plan a few months ago. Did you demand an apology from him? What about when, in 1998, McCain said “Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly?” Did you demand an apology from him then?
And now I’m going to go work on my post about why Obama is better for our country.
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Grandma Pam on 10 Sep 2008 at 8:53 am #
Well here goes. As you know, I don’t really like to discuss politics but the bottom line is providing for my family first, not the whole world. I am part of a small sector of the community who owns a small business that has provided a wonderful living for us. If there are more taxes and requirements for us to provide medical insurance for all our employees, we would not survive because we would have to raise our prices through the roof. DJ will have to fire all employees and do all the work himself. Rick had to do this for a while and it was hard. I didn’t see too much of him and neither did the kids. I am supporting those who have small business in mind.
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Amy in Ohio on 10 Sep 2008 at 11:23 am #
I really wish people would actually read the plans being proposed by both sides before rallying for or against them. No where in Obama’s plan does it spell out doom and gloom for small business nor does he state that the expectation will be on all small business owners to magically provide health care benefits at 100%. You can vote for whomever you like, but if you’re going to get involved in debate at least state facts, not the jibberish the opposing side has told you for decades.
Everyone of us in America deserve better than decent health care – I would think that owners who value their employees would want this too since a healthy workforce is a productive workforce. It seems you might be open to the idea of working with an administration that through forward thinking and expansion of ideas (not the blind rejection of such) could insure that ALL AMERICANS live their healthiest lives possible.
As Glennia said the old idea that Democrats tax and Republicans cut is simply not true. Don’t believe me? Take a look at the spending we’ve witnessed in the last eight years – especially in the ways of defense. Then take a look at the amount of money spent on social programs. This argument that Dems take from the rich and give to the poor is simply ludicris. Social programs – like federal aid for college, medicare for seniors, medicaid for children, etc. account for a drop in the bucket compared to the BILLIONS spent on Bush’s wars in the same time period.
No one seemed overly concerned with financial plans for Bush’s wars and billions later how exactly do you think that’s going to be repaid? Oh, that’s right, our grandchildren will be tending to that note.
And I’m sorry, but even if it was true and big bad Obama was going to raise taxes (again, read his plan and see how false this is), as long as my additional funds were being used to secure a brighter future for my daughter – sign me up.
Afterall – to those much has been given, much is expected.
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PsychMamma on 10 Sep 2008 at 11:28 am #
To Connie –
Regarding tax rate hikes: As Quart stated, “He will cut my taxes (and everyone else’s who makes under $250,000 a year)…. My family will welcome this break. We really need it. He will also eliminate income taxes on senior citizens who make less than $50,000 a year. I admit, I am not sure how he plans to pay for that, but I will tell you that I’d rather see my 92 year old grandma not pay taxes than whatever corporation out there).” Check out this outline comparing tax plans from both parties: http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hdX1csHuXbUFJ6REp97MjBsJouHAD932F24O0
And if that plan doesn’t work?? I have to say that I, like Heather (above), am willing to sacrifice a few thousand dollars a year for the happiness and health of others, my daughter’s planet & her future education. My husband is a small business owner who will be affected by the raised taxes portion of this proposal, and yet he too says that he does not mind paying higher taxes if something good is done with money. Of course we’d all like low or no taxes, but that’s just not realistic. Money for good programs in education, healthcare, environmental protection cost money and if that means I share some of my good fortune (through taxes), I’m more than willing to do it to help make our world a better place.
Regarding funding for his healthcare plan: Here is his answer from his website: “Q. How will we pay for the Obama plan?
A. The Obama plan will realize tremendous savings within the health care system to help finance the plan (http://www.barackobama.com/issues/healthcare/). The additional revenue needed to fund the up-front investments in technology and to help people who cannot afford health insurance is more than covered by allowing the Bush tax cuts to expire for people making more than $250,000 per year, as they are scheduled to do.”
Regarding his actual healthcare plan: He is NOT proposing a program like Canada’s. He’s proposing the creation of one more, affordable, insurance option for those who are currently uninsured, including thousands of children, that is much like what is currently available to members of congress. Even those on this plan would still be able to see the doctor they want, have access to labs, and would not be put on waiting lists for tests, surgeries or procedures. The difference is that they’ll have the same access to healthcare that the rest of us currently do. Maybe you’ve never known people who can’t afford insurance and can’t get adequate care as a result. Can you imagine the heartache of parents who can’t get the care they need for their child b/c they couldn’t afford insurance?? I know people like this, and their situation is heart wrenching. Do you know how high the infant mortality rate in the U.S. is?? And that it’s largely a result of poverty and the way our current healthcare system fails those less privileged? That’s just not right, and we can do better. Read more about Obama’s healthcare plan here: http://www.barackobama.com/issues/healthcare/
Please, please check the links I’ve embedded. Take some time to read about what you are so quick to criticize. You asked to know why I’m (we’re) voting for Obama, what he’s going to do and how he’s going to do it. We’re telling you. Please take the time to read it.
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AMomTwoBoys » Why I’m Voting for Barack Obama on 10 Sep 2008 at 11:40 am #
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Meghan on 10 Sep 2008 at 12:00 pm #
Jen-
The issue I (and others) have in his choice of Sarah Palin is that it’s been well documented that McCain wanted someone else. He felt someone else was better for the job. But he was forced into choosing her because she’d garner the support of the Religious Right. That’s not what’s best for this country.
And O bama’s not going to raise your taxes. He’s actually going to lower them. I don’t know what reports you’ve seen, or what articles you’ve read, but that’s totally not true. Unless you make over $250,000 a year. In which case your taxes will increase by $12.00. That’s one less margarita next time we’re out to dinner. :0) And I, for one, am happy to give up a margarita a year to get FAR away from the failed policies of the Bush Administration.
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Quart on 10 Sep 2008 at 4:00 pm #
Oh Angie, Angie, Angie. I wasn’t going to get started on the lipstick remark, but you’ve forced me to address it.
Are you fucking kidding me? It’s an expression. It’s been used for AGES. You know that this is not the first time you’ve ever heard it, and that if Palin hadn’t introduced her new catch phrase about pit bulls and hockey blah, blah, blah, no one would be talking about it. Quite frankly, if this is the best argument McCain’s campaign has against Obama right now, it’s clear that they’re taking no comfort in their recent bounce and they’re grasping at straws. I might even sleep better tonight, knowing this is all they’ve got.
Besides, even his detractors know that Obama is waaaay too smart a person to seriously imply that the VP nominee is a pig wearing lipstick. Get over yourselves and focus on the issues, please.
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JCK on 10 Sep 2008 at 9:26 pm #
This is a great post, Meg! You need to cross post it on BlogHer.
I find the whole Sarah Palin infatuation horrifying. Just flat out scary. I’m hoping the polls are wrong.
JCKs last blog post..Let’s Go, Let’s Go…to our NEW SCHOOL!..Dun Dun TCH!..Dun Dun TCH!
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Running Knitter on 11 Sep 2008 at 9:47 am #
Meg,
I found this post through BlogHer, and I wanted to thank you for such an excellent post. I agree with you 100%.
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Obama Mama on 11 Sep 2008 at 2:36 pm #
Dear Grandma Pam,
As a small-business owner, I’m happy for you that your small business has provided you with “a wonderful living”. However, I find it shameful that it doesn’t seem to concern you in the slightest that your employees are leaving themselves open to massive healthcare bills due to your reluctance to provide them with health coverage. If your business is that successful, surely you can spare a few extra tax dollars for your less fortunate employees on whose backs you are building your business? Remember, what goes around comes around. If the republicans win this time around, I will choose to not support small-businesses who voted for them and I encourage other Dems to do likewise.
Obama Mama
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Alison-Mountain Momma on 12 Sep 2008 at 9:30 am #
I feel ill knowing she was part of charging rape victims for rape kits. Being a rape counselor I know the mental and physical anguish associated with rape and the kit. I cannot believe that and any governor or official that does that should be ashamed of themselves.
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HRH on 12 Sep 2008 at 12:06 pm #
Wow. I am left speechless after all of that (which includes the comments above). I do wish people would just vote on issues and pick the candidate that is closest to what they believe. I think that would save the politicians a lot of time trying to “get my vote” which is driving me crazy.
Someday I am going to run for public office and say, “this is what I believe in. if you don’t agree, don’t vote for me”–catchy, eh? Maybe I should keep my day job.
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Grandma Pam on 14 Sep 2008 at 4:52 pm #
To Obama Mama: Our employees chose to obtain their own medical insurance. We have offered it to them several times in fact one employee took us up on it several years back, but he was the only one who took us up on it. It was no cheaper for us to get the insurance than for him to get it for himself. That is how our current employees see it. They want to provide for themselves, it is more gratifying to them to say they did it without any help.
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Amy in Ohio on 14 Sep 2008 at 6:13 pm #
The corporations that provide health care to their employees do so as part of their larger benefit package – they ARE working for it Grandma Pam and working damn hard to boot.
I’m sorry, but health care benefits from your employer is not a handout and representing it as such is shameful.
Well said Obama Mama.
Amy in Ohios last blog post..Love don’t live here no more
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Andrea's Sweet Life on 14 Sep 2008 at 10:00 pm #
Grandma Pam –
I am in the same boat as you, running a small business and hoping to build it into something that will last. You are fortunate that so far, your employees seem to have been very healthy and were able to obtain health insurance on their own.
Many, many people are not so lucky. Take myself, for example. I am a very healthy, active 30 year old woman. I take incredible care of myself, and am proud of that fact. However, I had a post partum hemorrhage last year that almost took my life. I was in the ICU and had to have a lot of procedures done. I am now considered a major health risk – even though I will NEVER be able to have any more children (hence, won’t have another post partum bleed) and have provided multiple insurance companies with medical “proof”, as well as opted out of maternity coverage, JUST IN CASE.
Still… because of that one thing, which is nothing I could have prevented, I am charged over $600 per month, JUST to cover MYSELF, for very basic and limited coverage. I get two doctors visits per year, and a $2500 deductible. For $600 a month. That does not cover my husband OR my two children.
I am fortunate that my family can afford to pay such outrageous insurance costs. But wouldn’t it be wonderful if I didn’t have to?
If any of our employees were in the same situation as I am, or had a wife who was, wouldn’t it be impossible for him/her to pay for that kind of coverage? I believe so.
That said, none of our employees want health coverage, either – they get great coverage from their spouse’s employer. But if they wanted it, we’d jump right on it. They are people we value, and we feel that we owe it to them to prove it.
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